During his appearance on comedian Joe Rogan's podcast, Carlson stated, "There's a ton of evidence that they're under the ocean and under the ground. They've been here for a long time." This assertion aligns with a growing sentiment among lawmakers intrigued by UFOs, including Missouri Congressman Eric Burlison and his GOP colleague Tim Burchett, who have previously likened UFOs to Biblical entities.
Earlier this year, Rep. Burchett, ahead of his initiative to bring UFO whistleblowers before Congress, told reporters, "The first chapter of Ezekiel is pretty clear of a UFO sighting." Rep. Burlison, who has had access to classified briefings on UFO phenomena, added, "Whenever I use the term 'angels,' to me, it's synonymous with an extradimensional being."
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During his podcast appearance on April 19, Carlson seemed to endorse these views, while admitting to many unanswered questions surrounding the issue, now more commonly referred to as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena or UAP. "They're from here and they've been here for thousands of years, whatever they are," Carlson said. "And it's pretty clear to me that they're 'spiritual entities,' whatever that means."
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Carlson elaborated that by 'supernatural,' he meant that these beings were 'above the observable nature' and did not conform to the laws of science. He posed the question, "With that fact set, what do you conclude?"
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Speculation linking UFOs to religious visitations and theories about interdimensional beings have been a recurring feature within the discourse on the topic since the early 20th Century. In December 2022, President Biden signed into law an amendment to investigate a UFO case from 1945, known as the 'Roswell before Roswell.' This case involved an 'avocado-shaped' craft that crashed in New Mexico. Jaques Vallée, a former contractor for the government's UFO office, wrote a book about the case and described the August 1945 crash to DailyMail.com.
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The theory gained significant traction with the 1969 publication of the book 'Passport to Magonia: from Folklore to Flying Saucers' by astronomer and Internet pioneer Jacques Vallée. Vallée, who later inspired François Truffaut's character in Steven Spielberg's UFO blockbuster 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind,' spent years studying ancient texts for the groundbreaking book.
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Vallée drew parallels between 1180 encounters with 'luminous' flying 'earthenware vessels' reported over Japan, Roman accounts of hovering 'shields,' and Native American stories of 'baskets from heaven' to argue a continuity with modern 'flying saucer' cases.
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In recent years, Vallée, now a Silicon Valley venture capitalist and computer scientist, published a study of physical evidence from a UFO crash in the peer-reviewed science journal, Progress in Aerospace Sciences. Vallée expressed his hope that this research could serve as a model for future serious UFO research.
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However, similar arguments linking UFOs to demonic entities or angelic miracles have also been made in less scholarly form on cable TV shows like 'Ancient Aliens,' and online by conspiracy theorists and evangelical Christians, among others.
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Brian Allan, the editor for Phenomena Magazine, cited an account by Anglican Pastor Ray Boeche, who claims that a faction within the Pentagon firmly believes that UFOs are the product of demonic forces. Allan said, "The Defense Intelligence Agency were looking at this demonic element, and they labelled these sorts of aliens as 'non-human entities.' They believed that there was a demonic component to the UFO phenomenon: they are not invading us, it's Biblical."
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