The conversation also touched on the controversial topic of the 2020 election, which Trump continues to assert was fraudulent.
According to the Daily Mail, Trump used the platform to reflect on his presidency, admitting that he made some "bad choices" in his cabinet appointments. "The one mistake... I will say it always comes back to the same answer, the biggest mistake I made... I picked some people that I shouldn't have picked," he confessed. When Rogan asked if he was referring to 'neocons', Trump confirmed, adding, "or bad people, or disloyal people."
The former president did not shy away from naming names, specifically calling out John Kelly, his longest-serving White House chief of staff, and John Bolton, his national security adviser. Both men have since become vocal critics of Trump. Kelly has even gone as far as to label Trump a "fascist" with no understanding of American history or the Constitution. Bolton, on the other hand, has dismissed Trump as "too stupid to be a true fascist."
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Trump fired back at his critics during the podcast, describing Kelly as a "bully" and a "weak person" and dismissing Bolton as an "idiot." He also addressed the contentious issue of the 2020 election, insisting, "That election was so crooked, it was the most crooked election." He claimed that legislative approval was not obtained for certain actions related to the election, such as extensions of voting and early voting.
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The conversation took a lighter turn when Rogan asked Trump about the existence of aliens. The former president teased, "They told me a lot," but did not provide any concrete information. He did, however, express his belief that there is "no reason" not to believe in extraterrestrial life.
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The interview also touched on the assassination attempt on Trump by Thomas Mathew Cook in July. Trump showed off a small scar on his ear, a remnant of the incident, which he said made him a "tougher guy."
Despite his previous assertions that he would never host Trump on his show, Rogan seemed to enjoy the conversation. He even acknowledged the relentless criticism Trump has faced, saying, "There's probably no one in history that I've ever seen that's been attacked the way you've been attacked and the way they've done it so coordinated and systematically."
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The episode, which was released at 10pm Eastern Time on Friday night, quickly racked up 300,000 views in just half an hour. It's worth noting that Vice President Kamala Harris's campaign was reportedly in talks for an interview on Rogan's podcast, but it was ultimately announced that she would not be appearing due to scheduling conflicts.
The interview with Trump, while controversial, offered a candid look at the former president's views and experiences. From his regrets about his cabinet appointments to his steadfast belief in election fraud, Trump remains a polarizing figure in American politics.
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His willingness to discuss these topics openly, however, suggests a desire to engage with his supporters and critics alike. Whether one agrees with his views or not, his appearance on The Joe Rogan Experience certainly made for an intriguing conversation.