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Sunday, 23 April 2017 15:29

Sessions: Improper Tax Credit Payments to ‘Mostly Mexicans’ Could Fund Border Wall

Written by  Pam Key

Sunday on ABC’s “This Week,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said President Donald Trump’s proposed U.S.-Mexico border wall could be paid for with improperly paid tax credits that go to “mostly Mexicans.

Partial transcript as follows:

STEPHANOPOULOS: You sound quite confident right there.

Do you have any evidence that Mexico is going to pay for it?

SESSIONS: Well, we’re going to get paid for it one way or the other. I know there’s $4 billion a year in excess payments, according to the Department of the Treasury’s own inspector general several years ago that are going to payments to people — tax credits that they shouldn’t get.

Now, these are mostly Mexicans.

And those kind of things add up — $4 billion a year for 10 years is $40 billion. There are a lot of ways we can find money to help pay for this. But in the long run…

STEPHANOPOULOS: How are you going to…

SESSIONS: — they’ve lost those…

STEPHANOPOULOS: — account for that money?

SESSIONS: What’s that?

STEPHANOPOULOS: How are you going to account for…

SESSIONS: Well, we just…

STEPHANOPOULOS: — that money?

SESSIONS: The Department of Treasury, several years ago, under the Obama administration, said that if you change the regulations and enforced it properly, you would save up to $4 billion a year.

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I've lived in a border State. I have heard stories of illegals getting as many as 4 %5,000 tax credits for IMAGINARY children, living or not living IN MEXICO.. Or not existing whatsoever. $20,000. And it's a direct payment. They don't even have Social security numbers.
Somewhere there are politicians and bureaucrats who need to face the firing squads. It's beyond despicable. It's UNSPEAKABLE..
Beyond this we have 'immigrants' Who pay NO Federal income tax for 13 YEARS.. Others that are fully funded by welfare/safety net programs.

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Yeah, no matter where you stand on this illegals in America are stealing from me and every other American that works and pays taxes. And the liberal politicians are supporting these thefts as are all politicians that do not fight against illegal immigration. And then add in those illegals that file false income returns to receive money from the IRS, money that I and other American citizens/taxpayers have sent in to pay our taxes. Now liberals, tell me again why we should have open borders with illegals living in America....

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So, Sessions doesn't seem to know what he is talking about....again. Did he get the AG position to be Trump's irrational mouth piece? He has certainly left me wondering how he got into Congress in the first place.

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That is a start, AG, but you need to take this a step farther. Ellis island style Processing Centers should be opened up to deal with incoming immigrants. They fill out a form and submit to a background check. If all is well, they get a shiny new Green Card. Charge $75 a head or $200 for a family. The money is deducted from their first paycheck. Once this system is in place, give all illegados in the USA 6 months to report to a Processing Center. After that time, detain any illegals found in the USA and either they get processed or they get tossed out of the USA. The wall on the border will be for keeping out the criminals we don't want here anyways.

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James Dionne Written by James Dionne
April 24, 2017
Timothy - before our government starts charging an admission fee for persons applying for immigration status (LEGAL immigration) I would submit the following be in place -
First, the immigrant has to have a documented means to support himself independent of any government support - by any level of government - (federal state or municipal)
Second - there has to be a need for that immigrant - i.e., the policy should be to offer immigration status first to those person that have a skill required by a business or have the capacity to build a business and hire AMERICAN workers
Third - all immigrants should be required to speak English and enroll in civics classes (something we should require of American citizens born in the country). While these are already required tor naturalization the course work is not very good. Hillsdale College has o/s courses on our history and our Constitution - (we should also require all liberals and Democrats to pass the same course work).
Fourth - make English the national language
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Timothy Linnomme Written by Timothy Linnomme
April 24, 2017
The quota system has two failures. They can be used to scum for votes in the US or patronage on the other end. No matter how tightly our gates are shut, immigrants still will arrive. I never said my idea would be perfect but it is one hell of a better idea then anything else I have seen so far. It is called Open/Controlled Immigration.

What he said! Illegal immigration is costing the taxpayers way more than the wall will cost. I thought it had been suggested that we increase the %fee of the money that get sent to Mexico (apparently we charge a low % when most countries charge between 8 - 12%). I can't remember exactly what the % that we charge is, I THINK it is 2% (might be 3% but I don't think it is over that).

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This is a SCAM that has been ONGOING for over Forty Years---Social Security Payments are currently being cashed in Mexico whilst legal American retired live without increase to Their checks as expenses continue to rise. Western Union and U.S. Post Office Money Orders are sent to Mexico each Month-fire Them,: remove Them from the rolls.

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You have two families: "John Legal" and "Juan Illegal". Both families have two parents, two children, and live in
Arizona ..

John Legal works in construction, has a Social Security Number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Juan Illegal also works in construction, has NO Social Security Number, and gets paid $15.00 in cash "under the table".

Ready? Now pay attention....
John Legal: $25.00 per hour x 40 hours = $1000.00 per week, or $52,000.00 per year. Now take 30% away for state and federal tax; John Legal now has $31,231.00.

Juan Illegal: $15.00 per hour x 40 hours = $600.00 per week, or $31,200 per year.Juan Illegal pays no taxes. Juan Illegal now has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. John Legal now has $24,031.00.

Juan Illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the state and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. John Legal pays $500.00 per month for food, or $6,000..00 per year. John Legal now has $18,031.00.

Juan Illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Juan Illegal still has $31,200.00.

John Legal pays rent of $1,200.00 per month, or $14,400.00 per year. John Legal now has 9,631.00.

Juan Illegal receives a $500.00 per month Federal Rent Subsidy. Juan Illegal pays out that $500.00 per month, or $6,000.00 per year. Juan Illegal still has $ 31,200.00.

John Legal pays $200.00 per month, or $2,400.00 for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. John Legal now has $7,231.00.

Juan Illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance!" and still has $31,200.00.

John Legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, etc..

Juan Illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline, and what he sends out of the country every month..

John Legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Juan Illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

John Legal's and Juan Illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.
John Legal pays for his children's lunches, while Juan Illegal's children get a government sponsored lunch. Juan Illegal's children
have an after school ESL program. John Legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age, John Legal's kids may not get into a State School and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though John has been paying for state schools through his taxes, while Juan Illegal's kids "go to the head of the class" because they are a minority.

John Legal and Juan Illegal both enjoy the same police and fire services, but John paid for them and Juan did not pay.

If you vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens...
You are part of the problem!

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David Guith Written by David Guith
April 23, 2017
You explained the full version of how the US citizen taxpayer gets totally pucked. Poverty is a strange thing when you add in all the benefits given to citizen and especially non-citizen, illegal criminals. What is alway addressed is earned income to supposedly qualify for numerous FREE benefits not added into the earned income to actually show they don't really live in poverty. As you say, this is accentuated by illegals who's income is only partially reported or not at all. They have cost us many trillions of dollars better spent on actual citizens and especially veterans who need to rely on charities for their needs. here in CA just the amount spent on their education: new schools, teachers, and meals is astronomical! Then add in all the dollars sent my them to mexico (the reason they aren't bankrupt) which causes a great trade deficit. Yes, we are fortunate to have these criminal bastards.
(Updated: April 23, 2017)

Why did Obama allow 4 billion dollars to go to this kind of waste? There were other unreasonable wastes of our money under Obama. He didn't care. It was not his money. And none of the damn liberal Dem government officials care the least. Jeff Season came aboard in so short a time and he has done some amazing things. It is hard to believe that before him it was that useless bitch Loretta Lynch as the nation's attorney general. In this connection, I am thinking about Rex Tillerson, our Secretary of States, and the super criminal woman Hillary Clinton as Obama administration's secretary of states. The difference is more than day and night

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President Trump's team is brilliant and building the Border Wall will be the smartest and greatest investment ever made by the USA government.!!! Forget repayment by Mexico and ignore a tax. Besides the carnage from drug pouring in, look at these costs.
1] The 2011 Martin & Ruark "The Fiscal Burden of Illegal Immigration on US Taxpayers" "estimates the annual costs of illegal immigration at the federal, state and local level to be about $113 Billion; nearly $29 Billion at the federal level and $84 Billion at the state and local level”.
Today’s and future costs are significantly greater.
2] The $113 Billion did not include the cost of humans and illicit drugs trafficking, lost citizen’s wages, the society’s drug users and crime victims nor positive benefit factors as less crime from repeat deported criminals, safer streets and communities.
3] The recent MIT and the anti-Trump Washington Post’s fact checker estimated the wall cost could be as high as $25 to $41 Billion for the entire border length.
4] Reducing the annual costs by 10%, the worse-case Wall Cost would be repaid within 2 to 4 years !!!
5] When did any government (or any financial adviser) make an investment with a 25% to 50% return within the first year followed by that annuity for life?
6] It would be just a bonus if Mexico made any repayment
7] Even I would invest in a limited 5% bond to be repaid in within 10 years from the above savings. That bond issue would generate too much money if made available.

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Rob Pekarik Written by Rob Pekarik
April 23, 2017
Explaining simple everyday matters with liberal progressives is like trying to teach Quantum Physics to a newborn. They are totally lost with even the basic understanding of life and have no common sense. To think that these people were in charge of the White House for the past 8 years should convince everyone that God was protecting America and teaching us a lesson at the same time = You reap what you sow. We believed the lies of the Obama administration and came as close as we could to losing our nation.

Everyone needs to remember that President Trump stated that all of the illegal immigrants must go home, now he is changing and saying the children brought here at a early age can stay, if the children can stay so will the whole family?
This will be just like the amnesty of 1986 where everyone in the family gets an amnesty?

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Dianne Trivers Written by Dianne Trivers
April 23, 2017
Trump's decision regarding DACA is most disappointing especially when one considers the cost to working Americans who get no govt.help. illegals are criminals AND at the very least all govt. benefits must cease. If they cannot become legal citizens they should be made to leave.

Tax all wire money transfers to private Mexican citizens at a rate of 33.333%. That will fund the wall in less time than it takes to tell.

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Sandra Leigh Written by Sandra Leigh
April 23, 2017
Mexico will NEVER pay for Trump's wall! It will be on the American middle class by cuts in domestic programs and by cuts to Medicare.

It was just the Democrats buying votes, it's their MO and it's their plan to build a Socialist America. Sorry, it isn't going to happen.

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Vince Coyle Written by Vince Coyle
April 23, 2017
Sessions is a damned idiot.
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Frank W Brown Written by Frank W Brown
April 23, 2017
In your dreams, Sessions means JUSTICE for a change!
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Wayne Blunk Written by Wayne Blunk
April 23, 2017
you are the idiots.
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Kelly Bybee Written by Kelly Bybee
April 23, 2017
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Why? Because he wants to abide by the Constitution of the United States of America? Is that what you hate Vince? Well, too bad. I hate to burst your since of non-reality but this is the U.S.A and you should deal with it or get out.

Stop all welfare to the illegal alien's...and divert it to the wall until it is finished, then divert it to pay off the debt!

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Jimmie Towle Written by Jimmie Towle
April 23, 2017
Round up any and all you can find. Either prosecute them and put them in jail, or send them back to where they came from. They are lawbreakers and don't deserve special treatment as many suggest. If they want to come back, let them apply and wait in line. If their kids who were born her are citizens, fine, they can stay, but I doubt they will. OR, If I rob a bank and get court I should receive the same amnesty treatment - breaking the law is breaking the law, no matter what.
This crap has to stop and doing it is not racist, it is enforcing the law, pure and simple.
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Ronald Cleveland Written by Ronald Cleveland
April 24, 2017
There are tens of thousands of American's live in Mexico...the anchor babies can live there with their parent.

tax credits, improper income tax returns to dead people, welfare payments to illegal aliens & crooks withheld grants from sanctuary states,counties, & cities, payments to people to not produce whatever they grow, there is lots of waste in our Govt. Find the money,jail the crooks, build the wall. Let the crooks build the wall, labor for food, "no free room & board here folks".

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