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Saturday, 29 July 2017 15:00

Report: 594,000 and 5.7 million Noncitizens Voted in 2008. But How About 2016?

Written by  Warren Mass

The president of the Just Facts non-profit research and educational institute issued a startling report in June indicating that between 594,000 and 5.7 million noncitizens voted in the 2008 presidential election. Just Facts, a New Jersey-based firm that employs conservative and libertarian policy analysts, was cited (among other places) in a June 22 editorial in Investor’s Business Daily headlined, “Did Votes By Noncitizens Cost Trump The 2016 Popular Vote? Sure Looks That Way.

Investor’s Business Daily applied the 2008 election findings to the 2016 election, stating:

The findings are eye-opening. In 2008, as many as 5.7 million noncitizens voted in the election. In 2012, as many as 3.6 million voted, the study said.

In 2016, the U.S. Census Bureau estimates that there were 21.0 million adult noncitizens in the U.S., up from 19.4 million in 2008. It is therefore highly likely that millions of noncitizens cast votes in 2016.

Just Facts’ findings were challenged by several organizations on the liberal-left side of the political spectrum. One such organization was PolitiFact, which wrote:

The number [of noncitizens voting] comes from a conclusion by Just Facts, a conservative/libertarian think tank. Just Facts’ numbers came from a study by Old Dominion University researchers. That study was based on a survey which showed that 38 people out 32,800 claimed to be noncitizens who had actually voted.

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I lived in AZ and NV for a total of 16 years. Illegados DO vote and this is why the Democrats want open borders. If those figures for 2008 are accurate, it would be easy to proportionalize them for 2016. Once more... illegados DO vote. To stop most of this, we need to adopt Open/Controlled immigration and make the illegados in the USA already show up to be processed at a Immigration Processing Center. Build the wall to keep out the criminals.

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This study shows 6-10 MILLION.. It does not include multiple voting, cross district voting. It does not express the damage of getting WRONG candidates in small districts, thus skewing the correct candidates in districts across the spectrum. It completely frauds out the State and Federal representation and gives larger numbers in the state houses and the U.S. Congress than would be represented without this massive fraud. We have al franken for example. LOST, provably. How many others under this fraudulent model? Enough to give the party of FRAUD, democrats a voice well beyond what they citizenry is actually voting for, And at the end of it we have fraudulent representation falsely claiming 'the will of the people". Unacceptable. Threat to democracy at it's core..

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There is, of course, no way to positively determine how many illegal votes were actually cast in 2016, or for whom they were cast. Empirical evidence clearly indicates, however, that Democraps are far more proficient at getting dead people, for example, to vote than are Republicans -- refer to 1960 in Illinois, where Mayor Richard J. Daley of Chicago convinced a LOT of graveyard residents to vote. We can't know just how many of the dead voted for the Kennedy-Johnson ticket, but it would be a good bet that virtually all of them did; after all, zombies and Democraps are all brain-dead.

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Well heck yeah...over three million non citizen's in California vote every election, they are signed up to vote along with the free driver license & food stamps....the welfare worker's even fill out the forms for them because, they NO English....Just because the democrat owned MSM doesn't tell the truth about it doesn't mean its not happening!

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That was and is the only way the Communists formerly Democrat party can win.We all know that this was how the Muslim FRAUD got elected and Hillary counted on the same outcome.Now the Crime Syndicate DNC is devastated that the voter fraud actually is and is being exposed to the SANE voters in America.DNC is now a full fledged criminal syndicate set on continuation of The Muslim FRAUD'S destruction

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CNN says this never happens here

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Now we know why the Demorat Libturd snowflakes are so upset about Trump investigating voter fraud!! They went from laughing to WAAA WAAA WAAA NO WAY TRUMP!!! They do not want their illegal voter base scared away!! They would NEVER win another election!!!

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Tom Schwander Written by Tom Schwander
July 30, 2017
If the liberals (dems) thought that those illegal votes would be going for republicans they would not be fighting all investigations into voter fraud.
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Jackson Brannon Written by Jackson Brannon
July 30, 2017
They would be DEMANDING an independant investigation of Hitlary Campaign donors!! OH wait they already did that over Russia!! OH WELL they would find more Clinton scum to do it!!

Almost enough to get Hillary, the Evil, elected.

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Extrapolating from 38 claimed votes to 5.8 million fraudulet votes....???? Puleeze? Do conseravtives, whose support candidates like Bush II and Trump who cannot win the public vote have a biased interest in "showing" that they actually won?

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Larry Reade Written by Larry Reade
July 29, 2017
We don't have mob rule here in America.
JayCee Scott Written by JayCee Scott
July 30, 2017
@ Dale Ruff,
President Trump DID win the popular vote as well as the Electoral College vote. The lame stream media reports false facts and the more gullible believe it to be true. Choose your position because the corruption in our voting process has just seen the light of day. We are wide awake now and heads will surely roll before this situation fades away.
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21 million illegals in the U.S. in 2016. I saw another report that there are over 12 million heroin addicts. That does not take into account how many crack heads and meth heads there are out there. How many of those people vote? The left has long said that somehow President Trump interfered with the election results possibly with Russian collusion. All of that has been proven false so far. When President Trump asked for voter data from all states to look into voter fraud why did they refuse to comply? They know the answer. If they RIGGED the nomination for Hillary - why would they stop there?

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That's because MSNBC reports facts and not bullshit. The ODU study was discredited two years ago in terms of flawed data analysis -- they took a dataset from Harvard researchers, and then performed analyses with inappropriate statistical techniques. It's a joke in the social science field.

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Larry Reade Written by Larry Reade
July 29, 2017
MSNBC reports facts? Wow! Since when?
Jackson Brannon Written by Jackson Brannon
July 29, 2017
MSNBC reports facts not BS??? WHAT drugs are you on?? Do they let you use the bathroom by yourself??? I hope not!! The stains on the walls would be Horrible!! At least now we know why you idiots don't want these voter Id's checked out!! You people laughed at Trump but when he said lets investigate it was NO WAY will you scare away our Illegal voters!!!
Rod Carveth Written by Rod Carveth
July 29, 2017
No matter what you have to say about MSNBC, the ODU study is pure crap, as is this story.

As far as the investigation, I am all for it, because when it is all over, Trump is going to look stupid for his claim that 3-5 million "illegals" voted.
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Craig G Etter Written by Craig G Etter
July 30, 2017
But what will you say if the claim, as I believe it will be, is proven to be substantially true? It's back to the cool-aid factory for you...

Wow! I didn't hear a thing about this on MSNBC!

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